Yesterday Salvia my teacher helped me to reveal one of the most important things in this universe. It expresses the oneness nature of all things, spiritual and physical both.

TO BE OUT OF BODY IS SAME AS TO WANDER AWAY WITH YOUR THOUGTS.

Forget all complicated things I or someone told you before. Few years ago (2000) I have done several successfullremote viewing experiments. do you think I've used some technique. No, I have just wanderd away with my thoughts. This is OBE. It has various degress, you may see or just feel, but it is OBE.

When you dream, daydream, fantasize you are in some degree out of body.

(As a side note from earlier experiences. OBE does not exist as we are ALWAYS out of body and in-body. Time does not exist, so distance from body or time when this happened havew no meaning at all in terms of so called spiritual being. OBE does not exists as there no way in or out.)

(It's same why visualization works. This same thing is called remote viewing.)

(When you OBE and you don't see your body it means you're out of game to see your body in its real place. If someone sees your body in its real place it's because there is an agreement between spirits it is on its place. When you don't see your body when OBE, it means you are out of agreement and you form a body in a new place from which you see things. To understand this game statement you recall dreams where you saw your body. I mean spirit forms so called body image and spirit can change location of this body image. This is one of possible OBE levels. When you don't see your body when remote viewing or OBEing, it means you do not form a body image, and often this is requisite for conscious OBEing (or wandering away with your thoughts) also called "silent, sirene" mind.).

(It also means that spiritual and pysaical are not separate. Everything, thoughts, enotions are in some level spiritual (yin) and in some level physical (yang). When you have "light" thoughts it is more spiritual and you are more OBE than having more physical "heavyweight" thoughts.)

(It means that in order to change world you need agreements between all players.)

(I mean, you can know spiritual things by knowing meaning of words. IT IS NOT SEPARATE. Words are spiritual, but in some degree they are heavyweight as they are written in heavy world.)